Subject	Seriously? read a book, or do some GD research
Posted by	jkperformance on October 18, 2013 at 11:43 PM
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In Reply To	I stand corrected, the latter aren't even hazards to the posted by LJZTT on October 18, 2013 at 01:01 AM
Message	[ http://ec.europa.eu/environment/integration/research/newsalert/pdf/303na1.pdf ] here, cliff's notes, since you obviously can't be bothered to read and do any research: "The batteries that require the most energy for their production are nickel-metal-hydride, at 90 MegaJoules (MJ) per kilogram (kg) of battery produced and lithium-ion, at 88-90 MJ per kg. This is reflected in their impact on fossil fuel depletion, with both lithium-ion and nickel-metal-hydride using around 1.6 kg of oil equivalent per kg of battery produced. These two batteries also perform the worst in terms of GHG emissions, with up to 12.5kg of CO2 equivalent for each kg of nickel-metal-hydride batteries. The sodium-sulphur and lead-acid batteries performed the best in terms of energy requirements and GHG emissions"
Follow Ups	No one here drives a Prius? (n/m) - Mr. ZiNGH (SoCal) 10:30:59 10/17/13 no. (n/m) - zfreak(Dallas) 10:48:01 10/17/13 True (n/m) - StramanVerTT(GA) 11:20:58 10/17/13 Don't own one, but will someday. We rent one every time - zellamay 11:06:57 10/17/13 they serve their purpose well - LJZTT 14:20:47 10/17/13 Sorry, I gotta ask, How is driving a Prius enslaving? (n/m) - zellamay 14:25:35 10/17/13 it isn't where do you get that idea? (n/m) - LJZTT 14:51:46 10/17/13 I guess I misread your post. (n/m) - zellamay 01:41:30 10/18/13 What... why? (n/m) - Inzane 11:42:30 10/17/13 They are sinfully ugly, some what uncomfortable, and - coma_ass 12:38:24 10/17/13 completely disagree, if you live in a city and do primarily, - LJZTT 14:17:22 10/17/13 er, I agree they are fugly...but then again styling really - LJZTT 14:23:33 10/17/13 Name ONE. (n/m) - GatorJ 20:55:08 10/18/13 No, because in addition to all the above - -Grimm- 12:50:16 10/17/13 No! - RobZ32 12:51:56 10/17/13 And another. - AHos(Chicago) 13:21:26 10/17/13 lol, awesome (n/m) - LJZTT 14:53:51 10/17/13 Fashion statement. (n/m) - ZXRider 12:56:37 10/17/13 Yes. "I drive a really ugly car, so I must love the planet." - zellamay 13:35:59 10/17/13 If Nancy Botwin drives one, so should you. (n/m) - fuzzymonkey 13:43:17 10/17/13 Pay no attn to anything else, this is the only right answer. (n/m) - white22sky 20:27:23 10/17/13 Who the heck is Nancy Botwin? (n/m) - zellamay 01:42:25 10/18/13 depends (n/m) - LJZTT 14:22:05 10/17/13 My mom does... (n/m) - Barry (NJ) 13:00:50 10/17/13 Would've been funnier if you'd said "your mom does". :) (n/m) - Inzane 13:27:45 10/17/13 I'm telling the truth... (n/m) - Barry (NJ) 20:52:20 10/17/13 I got a 2010 with solar roof - KA8 13:18:33 10/17/13 do you save $15,000 over 3 years by driving one? (n/m) - fuzzymonkey 13:20:28 10/17/13 Re: do you save $15,000 over 3 years by driving one? - KA8 14:44:41 10/17/13 Don't buy a Prius as a means to save $ - s3trios 14:56:48 10/17/13 maintenance costs for new prius (or any new car) $0 - LJZTT 15:02:29 10/17/13 Truth, don't know about cars, don't buy a fixer upper. (n/m) - s3trios 15:08:51 10/17/13 no, you should buy a fixer upper! - fuzzymonkey 15:27:45 10/17/13 Sounds like the 1998 Subaru Legacy Wagon I bought - s3trios 15:34:52 10/17/13 I'm gonna play devil's advocate here for a minute - black300zx 15:21:49 10/17/13 The Prius driver will still come out ahead $ wise - s3trios 15:27:04 10/17/13 again, russian roulette - LJZTT 17:25:20 10/17/13 You made a good point, but don't forget about interest. - bartz32tt 15:25:28 10/17/13 Prius does save money - KA8 15:06:28 10/17/13 Yes, it saves money if you own a vehicle - s3trios 15:14:16 10/17/13 You're comparing a hybrid's fuel costs to an SUV..... - black300zx 15:29:04 10/17/13 This. (n/m) - MixManMash 16:13:26 10/17/13 it may not have been the mathematically best selection for - LJZTT 17:27:50 10/17/13 Until you need to replace the batteries. (n/m) - StramanVerTT(GA) 15:12:31 10/17/13 THIS. Noone thinks about that part! Eco-Marketing FTW - ZinnZ32 16:01:56 10/17/13 where do you think your battery in your Z and other cars - LJZTT 17:33:29 10/17/13 apples to crabapples. not a direct comparison (n/m) - jkperformance 20:25:27 10/17/13 LOL really? both are hazardous waste items, neither can be - LJZTT 20:43:31 10/17/13 lead/acid batteries =/= nickel-metal hydride batteries. - jkperformance 21:04:02 10/17/13 I stand corrected, the latter aren't even hazards to the - LJZTT 01:01:11 10/18/13 Seriously? read a book, or do some GD research - jkperformance 23:43:21 10/18/13 maybe you missed the part where the topic of this particular - LJZTT 13:39:57 10/19/13 actually, the particular line of discussion was about - jkperformance 21:19:28 10/19/13 lol, maybe on planet save-face, but not on here in this - LJZTT 23:30:09 10/20/13 Apparently, the batteries are lasting 10+ years on these - MixManMash 16:35:29 10/17/13 cabbie that picked us up on my way out of Germany used - LJZTT 17:21:19 10/17/13 Re: Until you need to replace the batteries. - KA8 22:14:00 10/17/13 Just curious - what are you basing that on? The battery - black300zx 23:17:35 10/17/13 A lot of Hybrid ignorance in this thread. (n/m) - GatorJ 20:52:50 10/18/13 nope, Honda Insight is much better value (n/m) - LJZTT 14:21:35 10/17/13 No, it's NOT. Crap hybrid system (weak) + battery problems. (n/m) - GatorJ 20:51:02 10/18/13 You confuse "value" with quality of design - LJZTT 13:47:37 10/19/13 Troll attempt? (n/m) - StramanVerTT(GA) 14:26:56 10/17/13 I have a Leaf. - BannonZ 14:37:40 10/17/13 Thought about snagging something like that in a few years - BigTDogg (MA) 15:12:21 10/17/13 God no. - Schmeal (NV) 16:19:22 10/17/13 Sheesh! My friends mom had one when we were kids. - MixManMash 16:36:57 10/17/13 Waiting for the next crop of diesels to hit the market (n/m) - vorpalZ 16:25:49 10/17/13 ^ This is the correct answer if you do lots of driving. (n/m) - MixManMash 16:36:08 10/17/13 Yup, North America is only Decade behind Europe or so... - ZinnZ32 16:39:38 10/17/13 lol right (n/m) - LJZTT 17:18:20 10/17/13 I realize this info is old - 240Z FeO2 18:40:22 10/17/13 it woul dbe nice if every American was sent to live in - LJZTT 20:45:37 10/17/13 European advances in electricity production?? Like what? - Agent X 07:02:05 10/18/13 Well-spoken. - bartz32tt 08:37:20 10/18/13 Just approve the damn Keystone XL pipeline already!!! ;-) (n/m) - Inzane 10:57:03 10/18/13 Lol. I was just thinking that. - MixManMash 11:41:12 10/18/13 Thanks for making my point. From an economic efficiency - 240Z FeO2 13:48:22 10/18/13 ::standing ovation:: (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 00:32:27 10/20/13 "Ecoboost" is pretty hot these days. (n/m) - Schmeal (NV) 16:57:21 10/18/13 Yeah, but in real world it's not delivering on the fuel - MixManMash 20:39:43 10/18/13 Yep, ax Zfreak (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 20:49:04 10/18/13 For sure, but they drive nice. - Schmeal (NV) 23:11:40 10/18/13 VTD, VTB and VTB a second time. FTMFL :-( (n/m) - ConVerTT 18:14:37 10/17/13 OK, I voted to ban you....since you asked nicely. (n/m) - GatorJ 20:49:27 10/18/13 Almost bought a Leaf.. but its just too too ugly. (n/m) - Drk93TT 18:54:20 10/17/13 I do. - ChristopherTheOne 02:47:51 10/19/13
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